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In general, use the Notes area in the Metadata for each Tibetan text to record problems and issues for further research. Use this page to record especially complicated issues we need to return to and research.

Questions for Sarah Harding

RE: Volume 12, text 01-03 zab lam ni gu chos drug gi khrid yig zab don thang mar brdal ba zhes bya ba bklags chog ma The report lists Tāranātha as the author for this text, but the colophon says he is a redactor. I've listed him as both for now, but this needs to be checked.- The first three texts in this volume have this issue. Is Taranatha the author or a redactor for these texts?

RE: Volume 12, text 05 - ni gu'i yan lag phyag chen ga'u ma'i khrid - I'm not quite sure if the phrase yi ge'i rkyen ni at the end of the colophon really qualifies bka' bcu pa blo gros rgyal mtshan as a scribe or not, so this needs to be checked.

RE: Volume 12, text 012 - su kha sid+d+hi'i lo rgyus rgya gzhung gsang sgrub lte ba sprul 'khor dbang chog rnams - Authorship for this text is complicated- there are multiple colophons and multiple authors mentioned. Look at 4a4, 4b7, 6a3, 8b6. I've listed the author as 'jam mgon kong sprul, as it is in Chokyi Nyima's report.

RE: Volume 12, text 013, 019, 020 - same authorship question, see - dpal ldan shangs pa bka' brgyud kyi zab chos lha bzhi dril sgrub kyi khrid yig ye shes 'od 'phro - Not quite sure who qualifies as the author here, but the colophon seems to say that the text is attributed to mkhyen brste'i dbang po, and was written down without any alterations or corruptions by Kongtrul. This is similar to the issue with Vol 12 text 20.

RE: Volume 12, text 021 - brgyud pa'i rnam thar gsol 'debs u dum wa ra'i phreng ba - This text lists lodro thaye as the author in the colophon, but the report says the author is Tāranātha?


RE: Volume 12, text 034 - mgon po phyag drug pa snying zhugs dang 'brel ba'i bla ma'i rnal 'byor - Not sure which lcang skya rol pa'i rdo rje this is, so the author's page doesn't have too much information on it. The author that matches this name on TBRC's website [1] is a kadampa and a gandenpa, which makes me think the lcan skya rol pa'i rdo rje who wrote this is a different person? There are also two colophons for this text, one that lists the above author and another that seems to say that this text was either received or taught (nos) by 'jam dbyangs nkhyen brtse'i dbang po.

RE: Volume 14, text 19, lus mchod sbyin gyi zin bris mdor bsdus kun dga'i skyed tshal: Not sure who the 'jam dpal mkyen brtse on the colophon refers to. Is it mkhyen brtse'i dbang po?

RE: Volume 14, text 16, gcod yul rgya mtsho'i snying po stan thog gcig tu nyams su len pa'i tshul zab mo'i yang zhun- do you have any idea who rgyal thang pa bsam gtan bod zer, mentioned in the colophon, is?

RE: Volume 14, text 12, gcod kyi tshogs las yon tan kun 'byung gsungs rgyun 'khrul med ltar bkod pa bzhugs pa'i dbu phyogs - This text mentions a few different mdzad pa po's , among which are rnal 'byor blo gros rin chen, and thong smyon bsam 'grub. Any idea who they are?

RE: Volume 14, text 10, gcod khrid zab mo 'dod dgu'i char 'bebs - gcod pa kun dga' dbang phyug, mentioned in the colophon, appears to have some connection to the fourth trungpa tulku, drung kun dga' rnam rgyal. There is one listing on TBRC's website for a kun dga' dbang phyug [2] but this person is listed as as Sakyapa. The dates matsh up (I think). Any idea who this is?

RE: Volume 14, text 09, gcod kyi tshogs las yon tan kun ldan gyi dmigs rim bla ma'i gsung rgyun gyi zin bris shel dkar me long - Do you know which bstan 'dzin rnam bdag this is? Also, do you know which 'gyur med rdo rje this is in the colophon?

RE: Volume 14, text 08, gcod yul zab mo'i khrid yig gnad don snying po - any thoughts on who bya bral rin chen bkra shis, who requested this text, is?

RE: Volume 14, text 07, zab mo bdud kyi gcod yul gyi khrid yig - I'm not sure who three of the people listed in the lineage at the end of the colophon for this work are- namely dam pa rgya gar (pha dam pa sangs rgyas?) Jnanjvala, and gnam mthso ba -any idea who they are? Any alternate names that I could find them under at TBRC?

RE: Volume 14, text 04, shes rab kyi pha rol tu phyin pa'i man ngag gcod kyi gzhung shes rab skra rtse'i sa gzhung spel ba rin po che'i gter mdzod - I think that machik is the author of this text, but can you verify that for me?

RE: Volume 14, text 02, shes rab kyi pha rol tu phyin pa'i man ngag gcod kyi gzhung 'grel zag med sbrang rtsi There appear to be several people that could be considered authors for this text- the colophon on 14b4 says that 'zal mo brag ba appears to have composed most of the various words and commentary on this text for the noble prince rin chen gsel of nyang,'(།དེ་ནས་རིམ་པར་བརྒྱུད་པ་ལས་ཟལ་མོ་བྲག་པས་ཉང་གྱི་ཇོ་སྲས་རིན་ཆེན་གསལ་གྱི་དོན་དུ། གཞུང་གི་དོན་འགྲེལ་དང་ཡིག་སྣ་མང་བར་མཛད་པར་སྣང་ལ།), but there appear to be others who contributed as well. Does this make zal mo brag ba the primary author? The next two lines say བདག་གི་བླ་མས་འགྲེལ་པ་འབྲིང་དུ་ལོང་བ་མཛད་ཅིང་། ཁོ་བོས་རྒྱས་བསྡུས་གཉིས་བྲིས་པ་ཡིན་ནོ། It's not clear who this second commentary author is here.

RE: Volume 14, text 01, shes rab kyi pha rol tu phyin pa'i zab don bdud kyi gcod yul gyi gzhung - There are multiple texts and authors here, but because it is a root text, someone from the gcod lineage must have compiled them? Any ideas as to who put this collection of texts together? Also, is Bram ze Ārya de ba considered to be the same person as Āryadeva (Nagarjuna's student)?

Q:Wylie:Ring brgyud kyi gsol 'debs ma gcig gis mdzad par ban sgar 'jam dpal bzang pos kha bskang ba -
The colophon says: ། རིང་བརྒྱུད་ཀྱི་གསོལ་འདེབས་མ་གཅིག་གིས་མཛད་པར་བན་སྒར་འཇམ་དཔལ་བཟང་པོས་ཁ་ བསྐང་བ་ནི།

Colophon in Wylie: /ring brgyud kyi gsol 'debs ma gcig gis mdzad par ban sgar 'jam dpal bzang pos kha bskang ba ni/

Who is this: ban sgar 'jam dpal bzang po ? Is he this person http://tbrc.org/link?RID=P467 ?

A: Here's what I got back from Sarah on this : the title actually means "the supplication to the long lineage by Machik, appended by Bengar Jampal Zangpo" Since a prayer may be, and usually is, appended much later than the time of the original, since the lineage has many more names by then, I don't see any problem about the dates. If you want to send me page numbers in volume 14, then I'll look at the actual colophon. Hope you guys are having fun. love, Sarah --DrlEditorOne 15:38, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Questions for Cyrus Stearns

Volume 17 - kun mkhyen bo dong pa chen po? - is this an author or are these titles simply indicating that the texts are the lineage of Bo dong? See Gdams ngag mdzod DPL

Volume 16- all of the texts that are attributed to rnal 'byor pa 'od dpag rdo rje have him listed as a bkod pa po, which we are translating as 'redactor' in the catalog. I have also put him down as a, author, but am not sure if he really qualifies as such.

Volume 09 -Re: bla med lhan skyes rnam bzhi'i rdzogs rim snying po don gyi phreng ba and Person:'phyong rgyas grags pa dbang po - It is not clear to me that 'phyong rgyas refers to rig 'dzin chos kyi grags pa, but it is possible. 'phyong rgyas is a place where masters of the 'brug pa bka' brgyud order have been born, but I haven't found the clear connection with the 'bri gung yet.

Volume 08 - Who is sgam po pa bkra shis rnam rgyal? Another name for Gampopa? or another name for dwags po bkra shis rnam rgyal?

Volume 6 of gdams ngag mdzod (Shechen Edition)

Rje btsun grags pa rgyal mtshan and nag po pa and Ucitamara. - see below and note at Wylie:Slob dpon nag po spyod pas mdzad pa'i gtum mo lam rdzogs.

Tibetan:ཌོམྦི་ཧེ་རུ་ཀས་མཛད་པའི་ལྷན་ཅིག་སྐྱེས་གྲུབ་ 7-17

Wylie: Wylie:Dom+bi he ru kas mdzad pa'i lhan cig skyes grub, by rje btsun grags pa rgyal mtshan

Sources are split on who the author is. Is the author Dom+bi he ru ka or rje btsun grags pa rgyal mtshan?


Tibetan:སློབ་དཔོན་པདྨ་བཛྲ་གྱིས་མཛད་པའི་བསྐྱེད་རིམ་ཟབ་པའི་ཚུལ་དགུས་བརྒྱན་པ་ 19-41

Wylie: slob dpon pad+ma badz+ra gyis mdzad pa'i bskyed rim zab pa'i tshul dgus brgyan pa, by slob dpon pad+ma badz+ra (Person:Padmavajra)

Most of these texts seem to have another author than who is listed in the title. Is the author of this text actually Padmavajra?


Tibetan:སློབ་དཔོན་ནག་པོ་སྤྱོད་པས་མཛད་པའི་གཏུམ་མོ་ལམ་རྫོགས་ 43-53

Wylie: slob dpon nag po spyod pas mdzad pa'i gtum mo lam rdzogs, by shAk+ya'i dge bsnyen theg pa mchog gi rnal 'byor pa grags pa rgyal mtshan (rje btsun grags pa rgyal mtshan)

Sources are split on who the author is. Is the author slob dpon nag po spyod pa or rje btsun grags pa rgyal mtshan?


Tibetan:ནག་པོ་ཨུ་ཙི་ཏ་འཆི་བ་མེད་པས་མཛད་པ་ཡོན་པོ་སྲོང་བའི་གདམས་པ་ 55-57

Wylie: nag po u tsi ta 'chi ba med pas mdzad pa yon po srong ba'i gdams pa, by rje btsun grags pa rgyal mtshan

Sources are split on who the author is. Is the author nag po u tsi ta 'chi ba or rje btsun grags pa rgyal mtshan?


Tibetan:སློབ་དཔོན་ཀླུ་སྒྲུབ་ཀྱིས་མཛད་པའི་མཆོད་རྟེན་དྲུང་ཐོབ་ 59-65

Wylie: slob dpon klu sgrub kyis mdzad pa'i mchod rten drung thob, by shAk+ya'i dge bsnyen grags pa rgyal mtshan (rje btsun grags pa rgyal mtshan)

Sources are split on who the author is. Is the author slob dpon klu sgrub or rje btsun grags pa rgyal mtshan?


Tibetan:སློབ་དཔོན་ངག་དབང་གྲགས་པས་མཛད་པའི་ཕྱག་རྒྱ་ཆེན་པོ་ཡི་གེ་མེད་པ་ 67-79

Wylie: slob dpon ngag dbang grags pas mdzad pa'i phyag rgya chen po yi ge med pa, by rje btsun grags pa rgyal mtshan

Sources are split on who the author is. Is the author slob dpon ngag dbang grags pa or rje btsun grags pa rgyal mtshan?


Tibetan:དཔལ་ཏོག་ཙེ་བའི་བསམ་མི་ཁྱབ་ཀྱི་གདམས་ངག་ 81-118

Wylie: dpal tog tse ba'i bsam mi khyab kyi gdams ngag, by tog tse pa (Person:Kuddālapāda)

Most of these texts seem to have another author than who is listed in the title. Is the author of this text actually Kuddālapāda?


Tibetan:སློབ་དཔོན་ཨིནྡྲ་བྷཱུ་ཏིའི་མཛད་པའི་ཕྱག་རྒྱའི་ལམ་སྐོར་ 119-136

Wylie: slob dpon in+dra b+hU ti'i mdzad pa'i phyag rgya'i lam skor, by rje btsun grags pa rgyal mtshan

Sources are split on who the author is. Is the author slob dpon in+dra b+hU ti or rje btsun grags pa rgyal mtshan?


Tibetan:ཌོམྦི་ཧེ་རུ་ཀའི་ལྷན་ཅིག་སྐྱེས་གྲུབ་ཀྱི་ཁྲིད་ཡིག་བཀྲ་ཤིས་གི་ཝཾ་སྨན་བཅུད་ 137-150

Wylie: Wylie:Dom+bi he ru ka'i lhan cig skyes grub kyi khrid yig bkra shis gi waM sman bcud, by chos rgyal 'phags pa?

Sources are split on who the author is. Chökyi Nyima says author is Chos rgyal 'phag pa (from the lam 'bras pod dmar), but blo gros mtha' yas is in colophon.


Tibetan:པདྨ་བཛྲའི་ཟབ་པའི་ཚུལ་དགུའི་ཁྲིད་ཡིག་བཀྲ་ཤིས་ཡུངས་ཀར་གོང་བུ་ 151-180

Wylie: pad+ma badz+ra'i zab pa'i tshul dgu'i khrid yig bkra shis yungs kar gong bu, by chos rgyal 'phags pa?

Sources are split on who the author is. Chökyi Nyima says author is Chos rgyal 'phag pa (from the lam 'bras pod dmar), but blo gros mtha' yas is in colophon.


Tibetan:ནག་པོ་ཨུ་ཙི་ཊ་འཆི་བ་མེད་པའི་ཡོན་པོ་སྲོང་བའི་ཁྲིད་ཡིག་བཀྲ་ཤིས་ཞོའི་སྙིང་པོ་ 181-188

Wylie: nag po u tsi Ta 'chi ba med pa'i yon po srong ba'i khrid yig bkra shis zho'i snying po, by chos rgyal 'phags pa?

Sources are split on who the author is. Chökyi Nyima says author is Chos rgyal 'phag pa (from the lam 'bras pod dmar), but blo gros mtha' yas is in colophon.


Tibetan:འཕགས་པ་ཀླུ་སྒྲུབ་ཀྱི་མཆོད་རྟེན་དྲུང་ཐོབ་ཀྱི་ཁྲིད་ཡིག་བཀྲ་ཤིས་བིལྦའི་ལྗོན་བཟང་ 189-212

Wylie: Wylie:'phags pa klu sgrub kyi mchod rten drung thob kyi khrid yig bkra shis bil+ba'i ljon bzang, by chos rgyal 'phags pa?

Sources are split on who the author is. Chökyi Nyima says author is Chos rgyal 'phag pa (from the lam 'bras pod dmar), but blo gros mtha' yas is in colophon.


Tibetan:ངག་དབང་གྲགས་པའི་ཕྱག་རྒྱ་ཆེན་པོ་ཡི་གེ་མེད་པའི་ཁྲིད་ཡིག་བཀྲ་ཤིས་དཱུརྦའི་མྱུ་གུ་ 213-229

Wylie: ngag dbang grags pa'i phyag rgya chen po yi ge med pa'i khrid yig bkra shis dUrba'i myu gu, by chos rgyal 'phags pa?

Sources are split on who the author is. Chökyi Nyima says author is Chos rgyal 'phag pa (from the lam 'bras pod dmar), but blo gros mtha' yas is in colophon.


Tibetan:ཏོག་རྩེ་པའི་བསམ་གྱིས་མི་ཁྱབ་པའི་ཁྲིད་ཡིག་བཀྲ་ཤིས་དྭངས་ཤེལ་མེ་ལོང་ 231-254

Wylie: tog rtse pa'i bsam gyis mi khyab pa'i khrid yig bkra shis dwangs shel me long, by chos rgyal 'phags pa?

Sources are split on who the author is. Chökyi Nyima says author is Chos rgyal 'phag pa (from the lam 'bras pod dmar), but blo gros mtha' yas is in colophon.


Tibetan:ཨིནྡྲ་བྷཱུ་ཏིའི་ཕྱག་རྒྱའི་ལམ་གྱི་ཁྲིད་ཡིག་བཀྲ་ཤིས་དུང་དཀར་གཡས་འཁྱིལ་ 255-269

Wylie: in+dra b+hU ti'i phyag rgya'i lam gyi khrid yig bkra shis dung dkar g.yas 'khyil, by chos rgyal 'phags pa?

Sources are split on who the author is. Chökyi Nyima says author is Chos rgyal 'phag pa (from the lam 'bras pod dmar), but blo gros mtha' yas is in colophon.


Tibetan:ནག་པོ་པའི་གཏུམ་མོ་ལམ་རྫོགས་ཀྱི་ཁྲིད་ཡིག་བཀྲ་ཤིས་ལི་ཁྲིའི་ཐིག་ལེ་ 271-287

Wylie: nag po pa'i gtum mo lam rdzogs kyi khrid yig bkra shis li khri'i thig le, by chos rgyal 'phags pa?

Sources are split on who the author is. Chökyi Nyima says author is Chos rgyal 'phag pa (from the lam 'bras pod dmar), but blo gros mtha' yas is in colophon.


Tibetan:འབྲོག་མི་ལོ་ཙཱ་བས་མཁས་པ་སྒོ་དྲུག་ལ་གསན་པའི་སྒོ་དྲུག་ཆོས་འབྲེལ་དུ་གྲགས་པའི་ཁྲིད་ཡིག་ 289-303

Wylie: Wylie:'brog mi lo tsA bas mkhas pa sgo drug la gsan pa'i sgo drug chos 'brel du grags pa'i khrid yig, by chos rgyal 'phags pa?

Chökyi Nyima says author is Chos rgyal 'phag pa (from the lam 'bras pod dmar), but could not find author in colophon.

Missing or Hidden Texts

New Texts Found

RE: Volume 12, text 012 - su kha sid+d+hi'i lo rgyus rgya gzhung gsang sgrub lte ba sprul 'khor dbang chog rnams - there are multiple colophons and multiple authors mentioned. Look at 4a4, 4b7, 6a3, 8b6. I've listed the author as 'jam mgon kong sprul, as it is in Chokyi Nyima's report.

Colophon Problems

Issues in cataloging formats

Some pages have rgya gar skad du: no title, some don't have any rgya gar skad du: but do have bod skad du: even if no titles.